B2 - Shuddering common?
Posted: Thu Jul 07, 2005 6:19 pm
Moderate shuddering normal?
I have an 88 B2 with a stock 2.9 and mitsu 5-speed. When I bought it (essentially stock except for an obnoxious glass-pack), I drove it home via backroads, parked it, and began a ~1yr + axle swap. Did a d44/9” swap, and am running 37” MTR’s. 5.43’s or 5.38’s out back, can’t remember.
Since I finished the swap there has always been a shudder in the drivetrain at about 2200 – 2800 rpm, notice it mostly in 3rd or taller gears. I am now 100% positive it’s not driveshaft related (running a well-balanced double cardan, angles are great, I’ve swapped in and out a new Tom Woods spare with no difference), don’t think it’s the wheels/tires anymore (as a recent experiment I've been running several ounces of BB’s in them now with no noticeable difference).
The shuddering is mostly just annoying, forcing me to cruise at 3300 rpm at about 60 or so on the hwy in 4th gear. If I upshift to 5th, brings the rpms down to the trouble zone, and the shuddering starts. Isn’t so bad because I don’t drive the pig far usually and the tired 170K 2.9 seems to need a few extra rpms, and I don’t care that much if the 2.9 eventually gives out (I’ll swap in a 4.0), but it seems a little obnoxious to cruise at that high of an rpm. I’ve even swapped out the glass-pack in favor of a slightly quieter, real spark arresting muffler so that the rev’s wouldn’t annoy me so much. I am suspecting it’s powertrain/tranny related, as the vibration/shuddering seems rpm-dependent albeit more noticeable in taller gears.
Again, I didn’t ever really drive it much before the swap, so I can’t rule out a pre-existing condition. Hasn’t got any better or worse. The fm146 and clutch were replaced about a month before I bought it, but the then stock B2 looked like it had seen some hard service.
Any ideas? Although a mnor annoyance for a trail rig, it would please me to no end to figure it out.
I have an 88 B2 with a stock 2.9 and mitsu 5-speed. When I bought it (essentially stock except for an obnoxious glass-pack), I drove it home via backroads, parked it, and began a ~1yr + axle swap. Did a d44/9” swap, and am running 37” MTR’s. 5.43’s or 5.38’s out back, can’t remember.
Since I finished the swap there has always been a shudder in the drivetrain at about 2200 – 2800 rpm, notice it mostly in 3rd or taller gears. I am now 100% positive it’s not driveshaft related (running a well-balanced double cardan, angles are great, I’ve swapped in and out a new Tom Woods spare with no difference), don’t think it’s the wheels/tires anymore (as a recent experiment I've been running several ounces of BB’s in them now with no noticeable difference).
The shuddering is mostly just annoying, forcing me to cruise at 3300 rpm at about 60 or so on the hwy in 4th gear. If I upshift to 5th, brings the rpms down to the trouble zone, and the shuddering starts. Isn’t so bad because I don’t drive the pig far usually and the tired 170K 2.9 seems to need a few extra rpms, and I don’t care that much if the 2.9 eventually gives out (I’ll swap in a 4.0), but it seems a little obnoxious to cruise at that high of an rpm. I’ve even swapped out the glass-pack in favor of a slightly quieter, real spark arresting muffler so that the rev’s wouldn’t annoy me so much. I am suspecting it’s powertrain/tranny related, as the vibration/shuddering seems rpm-dependent albeit more noticeable in taller gears.
Again, I didn’t ever really drive it much before the swap, so I can’t rule out a pre-existing condition. Hasn’t got any better or worse. The fm146 and clutch were replaced about a month before I bought it, but the then stock B2 looked like it had seen some hard service.
Any ideas? Although a mnor annoyance for a trail rig, it would please me to no end to figure it out.