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yodaman1151 · Post by **yodaman1151** » Tue Jan 22, 2008 11:48 am

so what exactly am i looking at for a SAS? where do i want to get my axles from and what do i need to do? i've been perusing forums for a while now and there isnt any step by step details any where.. any help?

onewyr · Post by **onewyr** » Tue Jan 22, 2008 2:29 pm

most people get a D44 and 9" from an early bronco.
and you probably will not find a step by step on how to do this that writeup would be way to long most people give you the jist of what to do but figure if you are taking on this mod you have some knowledge so you shouldn't need a step by step

DBrown · Post by **DBrown** » Tue Jan 22, 2008 2:43 pm

in you look on the main page you will find a writeup. that should get you going in the right direction.

read that first then come beck and ask specific questions.

yodaman1151 · Post by **yodaman1151** » Wed Jan 23, 2008 3:37 pm

so i need the axle out of an early bronco or full size? it mentions a 74 bronco and i only know b2's well so is that the early bronco? the springs he bought were for the early bronco and they fit fine? the control brackets i understand well enough. and the whole shock thing i didn't understand. was that for the future wristed arms? can i buy 4" lift shocks and bolt on to stock locals? or do i want to wrist my arms too and rebuild shock towers? sorry for the noob questions...

DBrown · Post by **DBrown** » Thu Jan 24, 2008 5:29 am

the early bronco axle is very close to the width of your stock suspension. the years are 66- 71 for the D30 and 71.5-77 for the D44

the full size axle will need to be narrowed or installed wide and will stick out of the fenders. the main years are late 60's and 70's 1/2 ton for the D44 and 3/4 ton (eight lug) for the 60. the 60 is leaf sprung so it will be completely differnt suspension system.

the springs fit to the solid axle because that is what they are made for and I think he altered the coil buckets a little to fit them at the top.

as for the shocks, I would build new towers and go ahead and build the wristed arm. in order to get the right shocks you need to flex the suspension to measure what you need. kinda like a min and max measurement. then order what you need

hope that helps...

yodaman1151 · Post by **yodaman1151** » Thu Jan 24, 2008 7:30 am

yeah, i looked on craigslist last night and everybody wants an arm and a leg for their early broncos around here. even just the axles they want $400 for them and that seems steep for somethin 50 yrs old..

DBrown · Post by **DBrown** » Thu Jan 24, 2008 1:18 pm

considering those axles will probably be all the axle most people will ever need for there BII's I don't think $400 is too bad.

also with those axles you don't have to do any cutting to keep your truck 50 state legal. (meaning under your fenders)

those axles can also be found with stock 4.10 gears...

yodaman1151 · Post by **yodaman1151** » Thu Jan 24, 2008 2:13 pm

what about the dana 30's found under jeep xj's? will those hold up well?

DBrown · Post by **DBrown** » Thu Jan 24, 2008 2:36 pm

I have only messed with a D44 in my old BII, but I would say it depends on how hard you wheel. the D30 out of an xj,zj, and any other jeep will also be a little more work then the EB D44. simply because they are 4 link from the factory and you will either have to deal with fabing links or grind off the brackets and convert to some other type of system. the only advantage...if you would call it that would be it has the same lug pattern as the rear. BUT do you realy want to keep the 7.5?

I guess you could swap to a 8.8 out of an exploder...

yodaman1151 · Post by **yodaman1151** » Thu Jan 24, 2008 5:40 pm

well whats the difference? i was thinking i wanted the running gear out of an explorer but i don't know i really am just exploring (no pun intended lol) my options. in your opinion whats the best way to go?

Phillippi · Post by **Phillippi** » Thu Jan 24, 2008 7:50 pm

If all your doing is exploring then a SAS might not be needed. You have to decide what type of wheeling you are going to do and then go from there. If you are only wheel in mild stuff then you could just upgrade to D35 and 8.8 from an explorer and be done with it. The only thing you would have to do is move the spring perches from the bottom to the top for the leaf springs.

yodaman1151 · Post by **yodaman1151** » Fri Jan 25, 2008 1:36 pm

that is just cutting it off the axel and welding it on top? will that add any lift or just stronger running gear? do you know what gear ratios are available? i want 4.10s i think..

Phillippi · Post by **Phillippi** » Fri Jan 25, 2008 7:42 pm

There are some rangers (I think) with 4:10s but those are narrower then the explorer axels. THe front Dana35 are a direct bolt in and same lug pattern.

I am sure that there are some Explorers out there with factory 4:10s but I dont know how common they are. If they do have them, I would guess it would be standard explorers not autos.