So tell me about the 9" sb 28 sline axels

Phillippi · Post by **Phillippi** » Tue Oct 03, 2006 4:54 pm

Are these junk? I have one that I can get, but I dont know what its out of only that its eb sized. Anything to I need to know about them or should I just wait for a bigbearing 9?

Its a 69 Bronco 9" if that makes a difference. (he wants $200 for it almost complete.) It also needs a carrier like this he says.

DBrown · Post by **DBrown** » Wed Oct 04, 2006 6:15 am

well, if it was a big bearing housing I would go for it...the small bearing stuff is not realy worth it. you can buy a housing on broncograveyard.com for $100+shipping.

$200 is high for an incomplete rear...if you can find a full sized 31spline rear pull the 3rd and axles, get the EB housing from jeffs, and have you full size axles cut down. then you can run the larger drums from the FS stuff also. and you sould be under $400. that or look for a 76-77 EB 9"

Phillippi · Post by **Phillippi** » Wed Oct 04, 2006 2:09 pm

So how much do those carriers cost at the junk yard? Thats the only piece missing. All bearings redone 6 months ago, and also seals. The carrier is the only thing not included with the axle. I was thinking that a junkyard carrier would be hardly anything and then the axle would be complete. Still not worth it?

Phillippi · Post by **Phillippi** » Thu Oct 05, 2006 1:47 am

I just went to broncograveyard and the only housing they sell is the small bearing for $100. The other big bearing housing is the 9+ for $345. I have been looking all over for an EB 9" but only find fs axles. ..................

DBrown · Post by **DBrown** » Thu Oct 05, 2006 6:04 am

if they sell them by the weight it is only like $27 for the whole 3rd. I got a 3.25 open 28 spline unit at the NMRA for $40 if you look on ebay it will be high. I do remeber that you can get a 3rd housing for $50 with shipping from a vendor on there then you can get a 31 spline spool for around $100 shipped and used gears for under $100 you would need to still buy a bearing suport and set up kit but it would be one way to do it. also you can get the bearing ends and have them welded on to get a BB housing...just a thought.

how much were people asking for the FS rears?

Post by **Nobody** » Thu Oct 05, 2006 2:41 pm

That's a lot of money for an incomplete axle, small bearing at that. The small bearing 28 spline axles are quite a bit weaker than the big bearing 28 spline axles. You can get 31 spline axles, but then you need a custom axle bearing and I don't like that. Then the axle tube flanges are a different pattern, and to top it all off it's the old style housing.

I would really suggest holding out for a big bearing axle. Get a fullsize 9" with the updated trussed housing, then have it cut down. There has to be someone in you area that does it. We can get complete axles from the junkyard for $80.

As for the carrier, technically pic above is the 3rd member. The actual carrier would be your open diff, LS, or locker. I would have a hard time throwing money at 28 spline stuff, but in reality, it is plenty strong for what a lot of people would need.

It's a kind of a vicious cycle and it all revolves around the housing you choose. I only like to spend money once, so I always opt to hold out for what I want.

I'm in the same boat with my EB. It has a small bearing 9". I don't want to buy a 28 spline ARB, so I need to upgrade to 31 spline. But before I upgrade to 31 spline, I want a big bearing housing cut to the width I want.

Then if you stand back and look at cost, it's about the same or less to build a 35 spline 60. Especially once you consider the cost of a nodular 3rd member.

Guess that $200 for a small bearing housing isn't so bad after all

DBrown · Post by **DBrown** » Thu Oct 05, 2006 3:22 pm

I know that alot of people talk about housing strength between the banjo and standard fracoty trussed housing but to be honest I don't think that is realy the bigest part...lets face it you can truss a banjo housing. in my personal opinion I think it is more important to get a big bearing housing then to wory about the factory trussed unit. don't get me wrong I will pick it every time if I got the choice but I would settle if I got a good deal.

I agree 100% you should hold out for a big bearing housing. here is something for you to look at too. late 60's PU's got a rear that is about 3" wider then the EB housing. I got one from a 68 that from flange to flange measures ~ 56.5" the eb is around 53". so that will open up some options for you.

here is what I would try. look for a full size 31 spline Big Bearing unit. then rob the center section, and drum brakes from the backing plate out. then look for a EB or late 60's PU housing to install that in. then it is all plug and play...no machine work. I hate machine work because it is an added cost on top of buying parts. the EB stuff can be upgraded straight off the shelf.

one more thing to look out for is to make sure you stay away from the WAR case. the C_AW case or the N case is the way to got if you are looking for good stock stuff.

if you lived here I could set you up with that housing but shipping on it would probably be more then it is worth...hell I got that one for free

Phillippi · Post by **Phillippi** » Thu Oct 05, 2006 5:46 pm

I see all your points. My problem is this. Rockcrawling is HUGE around here. Any 9" rear is scooped up at stupid prices incomplete and even worse prices complete. I also failed to mention that he is also giving (with sale) a limited slip carrier and another set of shafts, front d44 steering as well.

I found online that the 3rd members empty from broncograveyard are $60 so I thought it would be cheaper from a local boneyard. I also have a nieghbor who can set up the 3rd for me for not much.

So now you guys see my problem.

Also if I buy this unit, there will soon be a 7.5" rear with 4.56 and detroit on the market....

Phillippi · Post by **Phillippi** » Thu Oct 05, 2006 5:47 pm

ALso I put a post on a local 4x4 board and asked for any 9" stuff and had offers of housings only for $300-400 alone. Thats why I am seriously condering the small bearing 9" in eb size already....

Post by **Nobody** » Thu Oct 05, 2006 6:02 pm

Sounds like it's time for road trip to Wa. Bring a trailer, load up and retire.

The important thing is to get your rig going, if a small bearing 9" is your best option, then do it. But I have a very hard time believing you can't find one. It's only one of the most popular rearends ever. People are parting out cars and trucks all the time.

Phillippi · Post by **Phillippi** » Thu Oct 05, 2006 11:20 pm

Dont get me wrong, FS are for sale all over for $150 or so complete. After having it cut down and or redone with bearings and seals would be a lot more then the simple eb sized with everything done already read to roll after the 3rd is put on.

I have been doing some searches and there are NO eb sized axles complete around here that I can find. Boneyards dont have them, as they are gone as soon as they have one. Its frustrating becuase I have been looking for an eb 9" for 2 years and nothing in my cheap budget. I have seen them complete for $500-800. Im not spending that much.

DBrown · Post by **DBrown** » Fri Oct 06, 2006 5:56 am

what are they charging to cut down a rear there?

you could buy the $200 housing and the $150 FS rear and use everything there to build a rear...the only thing is it will still be small bearing.

is he giving you all the brake stuff and 2 sets of shafts?

Phillippi · Post by **Phillippi** » Fri Oct 06, 2006 6:03 am

drum to drum minus the actual 3rd. r&p, all new bearings, 1 extra set of shafts, a limited slip carrier, open carrier (has gears already installed). New brake pads even.

The problem is that cutting and resplining axles cost me $80 each when I had my d44 cut down. That would put the whole rear way more then this deal...............

DBrown · Post by **DBrown** » Tue Oct 10, 2006 9:23 am

if you have shafts for the EB 9" you will not have to cut anything. they will bolt in as long as the carrier is the same spline count. just put it together for now and upgrade later...