Please help!!!

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Please help!!!

Postby Richard85 » Fri Jul 25, 2014 10:25 am

I've got an 86 Bronco II and I was driving it today and it started chugging then it just died. When I let it sit for awhile I was able to start it but when I gave it gas would die again. Well I turned key on and pumps turned on but when I checked Pressure Regulator, it had air coming out and no fuel. I climbed under the truck and cracked open the container that fuel filter is in and let some fuel leak out.. Well it started and I drove it 15 minutes down road and it started doing it again.. Can anyone help me please???

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Re: Please help!!!

Postby drofman » Sat Jul 26, 2014 5:01 pm

Sounds like it may be the in-tank fuel pump. Mine did the same thing. There is a hose between the pump and delivery line that went bad on mine. If you search this site you will see it happens a lot.

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Re: Please help!!!

Postby Richard85 » Sat Jul 26, 2014 5:21 pm

I replaced that whole Sending Unit probably about 2.5 years ago, do you think that the hose might be lose or have a whole in it??

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Re: Please help!!!

Postby tekatlarge » Sun Jul 27, 2014 10:21 am

If it had a hole in it it would be moist at least. When a hose fails internally it usually collapses in side itself.
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Re: Please help!!!

Postby Richard85 » Sun Jul 27, 2014 10:42 am

So what I'm getting from this is, drop my fuel tank and look at that hose on my fuel pump? My gas gauge isn't working either, hasn't been since I installed the new Sending Unit. Maybe I got a faulty unit??

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Re: Please help!!!

Postby tekatlarge » Sun Jul 27, 2014 11:11 am

That could be a strong possibility. I know the in tank fuel pump / Gas gauge are high failure items.

When I mentioned the hose above I was pressed for time and I was going to explain what I meant about that.

A fuel hose is a double layer hose at minimum. Some have multiple layers. With today's CRAP that gas stations sell the fuel is of course laced heavily with alcohol, methanol all of the rubber components that are exposed to this fuel start deteriorating and being eaten away by the alcohol in the fuel. The fuel breaks down the innermost layer first and allows fuel to work itself between the layers of the hose. When that happens the fuel pressure forces fuel between the layers of hose and squishes the inner layer on top of itself effectively blocking the line. The harder the pump works the tighter the hose is squished and no fuel flow. Sometimes when the pressure is relaxed like key off the fuel will seep through giving the vehicle a tiny bit of fuel to start itself and start the cycle all over again. If and when you pull the tank just replace that piece of flexible rubber hose. It will save you hours of frustration trying to trace the problem.

One last bit of Info, When the tank is removed and installed make sure the ground wires are hooked up and in good condition.

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Re: Please help!!!

Postby Richard85 » Sun Jul 27, 2014 5:38 pm

Thank you for the info, I will try to drop the tank tomorrow and try to figure out problem. The fuel gauge works sometimes for a few minutes but will go back down to empty, while I'm driving down the road..

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Re: Please help!!!

Postby drofman » Sun Jul 27, 2014 7:57 pm

Mine hose didn't collapses on itself what it did is expand (it's after the pump so it's pressure not suction) and let the fuel go back into the tank thus not making it to the secondary pump (frame rail).

Seems like a pump should last longer than 2 1/2 years.
Might want to check pressure or try to run it on carb cleaner when it dies to verifiy it's a fuel problem. Just saying.

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Re: Please help!!!

Postby Richard85 » Sun Jul 27, 2014 8:09 pm

When it dies on me and I check for fuel at the schrader valve all I get is air coming out but when it's running and I check it there is fuel coming out.. Yeah I thought that 2.5 years was kinda soon too but I've had a fuel pump quit within a few months after I bought it before.. I bought the whole Sending Unit from O'Reillys but the kid that sold it to me said he had to search for one on the internet cause they didn't carry it or something to that extent.

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Re: Please help!!!

Postby Richard85 » Thu Jul 31, 2014 4:55 pm

OK I got the stalling problem figured out, the High Pressure Pump is bad.. Got one coming in on Tuesday.

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Re: Please help!!!

Postby tekatlarge » Thu Jul 31, 2014 5:35 pm

Glad you found the problem..
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Re: Please help!!!

Postby Richard85 » Wed Aug 06, 2014 12:14 pm

Well I installed the new pump and it's still doing the same thing as it was before..

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Re: Please help!!!

Postby kirkland2887 » Sun Aug 31, 2014 8:48 am

you need to put a pressure gauge on it. if you are getting air in the system it has to be in the tank or the little plastic resevoir on frame rail. i have seen low pressure pump have weak output and high pressure pump was pulling slight suction on resevoir.

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Re: Please help!!!

Postby kirkland2887 » Sun Aug 31, 2014 8:49 am

truck will run on less than 30 psi. but you need closer to 35 to avoid engine damage and put out any power

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Re: Please help!!!

Postby Richard85 » Thu Sep 04, 2014 9:10 pm

I'm trading this big ol pile of crap this weekend..


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